Roots Dortmans

It is unclear where are the roots of the first Dortmans in this genealogy, Theodorus Joannes Dortmans (generation 12). The name pops up in Deurne (1612) and Dinther (1613) in a Schepenbank document

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BHIC Schepenprotocollen Dinther 1613-1625 Civiele rol en protocol, image 19, April 1613

In a Schepenbank document of 17 June 1660 his children with Jenneke Jan Schenckels are mentioned:

- Wilbort Dirkx Dortmans

- Andries Dirkx Dortmans

- Aert Dirkx Dortmans

- mr. Johan Dirkx Dortmans, priest (kapelaan) in Rees (D) (e.g. schepenprotocollen Dinther 1549-1701 Minuten van schepenakten, image 93, May 21 1660)

- Peter Dirkx Dortmans, living in Marienbaum (D) (e.g. schepenprotocollen Dinther 1549-1701 Minuten van schepenakten, image 93, May 21 1660; schepenprotocollen Dinther 1656-1664 Protocol van akten betreffende vaste goederen, image 196)

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BHIC schepenprotocollen Dinther 1656-1664 Protocol van akten betreffende vaste goederen, image 125, June 1660

 

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BHIC schepenprotocollen Dinther 1656-1664 Protocol van akten betreffende vaste goederen, image 79+80, May 1659

Some observations can be made:

- their marriage was probably around 1612. As common in that time in Brabant (catholic) children were given the names of grandfather/mother. In Schepenbank documents usually the oldest child comes first so Wilbort is probably oldest and named after the grandfather of Jenneke, Wilbort Schenckels. The church documents of Dinther only start in 1618, so previously born children are not known from this source.

- the connection to Marienbaum (Xanten region in Germany) is interesting. In Marienbaum in 1460 a monastery of the Bridgettines was established, with an abbey church called St. Maria Himmelfahrt. The monastery had a double monastery in Rosmalen, Coudewater or Mariënwater, that was shut down About 1650. This monastery was close to Dinther and lively exchange of people between the two monasteries existed. Andreas Schenckels (About 1595, Scenclius) was priest in Heeswijk (1628) and prior of the monastery in Marienbaum in 1641-1650, he is probably a brother of Jenneke Schenckels and a baptism witness in Dinther (1627:Dortmans, 1628:) and Helmond (1662:Schenckels). Perhaps Andries Dortmans is named after him. Also this could reveal the link with Johan and Peter Dirkx Dortmans with Marienbaum/Rees. Johan Dortmans started his studies in 1647 in Leuven, so probably finished around 1650. It is also good to mention that Theodorus Petrus Dortmans (1650-1728) was a Christian priest (in Gemonde).

Like for other parts of Brabant and Gelderland, it is good to recall the influence of the change in dominant religion in the 17th century. E.g. Dinther was at the border of Staats Brabant and the Land of Ravenstein and many catholic marriages were actually conducted in e.g. Bedaf or Uden. Thus church records must be viewed with care!

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References

- H. Bots, J. Matthey, M.Meyer, Noordbrabantsche studenten 1550-1750, XLIV, Tilburg 1979

  1. pagina 775: Immatriculisatie op 7 januari 1647 nr 5940 Joannes Wortman uit Dinther (Info Jos Dortmans, de Wojstap)
  2. pagina 625: Immatriculisatie op 12-12-1616 nr 4592 Andreas Schenkelius uit Dinther, aangeduid als frater

- https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marienbaum

- R. Scholten, Marienbaum als Wallfahrtsort und ehemaliges Birgittinnen-Doppelkloster. Gesthuysen, Xanten 1909 (pag 64) http://digital.ub.uni-duesseldorf.de/urn/urn:nbn:de:hbz:061:1-82418

- B. Stroband, Geschichte des Wallfahrtsortes Marienbaum am Niederrhein, Laumann, 1898 http://digital.ub.uni-duesseldorf.de/urn/urn:nbn:de:hbz:061:1-37310

 

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